Religion at it's best is just harmless delusions for the weak minded, but in this case this is not far removed from the Islamic extremists blowing themselves up. Well if thats the case why have they not saved a single person? :). Indeed, aren't gay people free to do what they want to do. But we are also called to follow His footsteps to the cross.. and that is righteousness and live as a living sacrifice. These children are brainwashed and THAT is sad! i feel so sorry for the young girls and kids in that family.. having to live under the rule of such a bigot and chauvinist. And I do hate it when people are condescending, but you were not, you were offering advice, and help, the exact opposite of being such. They would be on their way to HELL where they belong. I had more to say, but I'm not quite mature enough to know how to say it with out offending someone by accedent. They are hateful, judgemental and not of God. Unless God changed the rule, he said be fruitful and multiple. which resulted in death, destruction, and exile of even God's beloved people, Israel. Revelation 2:22-23 Why are republicans so full of hate. Seriously, just leave. You must be str8, cuz you sure as hell wouldn't be saying that Stop with your stupid comments. @ 52:00, she is wearing an Italian soccer team shirt. If there is a Hell, I will be seeing Fred Phelps, and all of his followers there when I arrive. Also they are not modifying the flag in a physical meaner, so they are doing nothing that can get them in government binds. I could write a book expanding on that concept alone. The Bible says that God takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked, and again it says that we should NOT rejoice in the downfall of our enemies. Christ wants all people to repent of their sin, look at the woman where He draw the line, can these people cross the line and stone the sinners? Jesus sayd everything is god, so according to his words god is you, me, the Internet, the universe, god is everything. people do not choose their sexual preferences. I don't expect an apology, since this IS a comment board, but there's something for you to either chew over or black out. Please do not try to dump your straight trash onto us. None other then Jesus said so. None of us, no matter how good we are, can ever impress God or do enough good deeds, or follow His Law so closely that we earn Heaven. But I will pray to God that he helps these people understand cause I personally think that they have a one way ticket to hell right now but the only reason is because they are deeply trying to spread what they think is Gods word. If America is so bad, then they should get the F*CK out and never come back. On the end the young lady said it was "a service," and that people have treated thier kindness of telling them to repent with contemt. and at 29:10 the Bible says that Christians are a peculiar people... these people have 1 thing right, and destroy every other part of their religion, or so they think they have a religion. I see nobody as as waste of skin, and I am grateful for not seeing the world as this uniform "master race" as you obviously do. I know they were saying jesus is only go but he is bot man and god Okay. She has a "father adoration" complex, and worships not God, but him. The reporter was out of his depth with everyone except the 6 year old, and that would have been a matter of time. to a female member of the Westboro Baptist Church for, I would hope, obvious reasons. It s not about the evil belief. How can these people live with themselves? That was my favourite part of that video, I lost count of the amount of times I hit replay. Keepin the place warm for me. Now we command and exhort such people, by the Yahsha (Jesus Christ), that quietly working, they may eat their own bread. The Most Hated Family in America Louis Theroux with (left to right) Noah Phelps-Roger, Margie Phelps and Pastor Fred Phelps They call themselves the most hated family in the US and they picket funerals of soldiers killed in Iraq. But Who are we to judge. Everything threatens their fragile house of cards. It's just the way things are. All their doing is raising more hateful, intolent people. They didn't stand a chance. *Shakes head* Our Gods must be different. Could we have imagined if that was not a religious group, just a group of people who wanted to picket funerals to provoke a reaction? The only people who go to Hell are those who reject the open hand of Jesus Christ who died for their sins. The closest things we have are the laws against murder, theft and perjury - and AFAIK the law against perjury is derived from Roman law. How do you argue with that close-minded bigotry? Love is the core of happiness and growth for the evolving species that we are. The forgoing is not opinion. In fact, your first comment sounds almost exactly like something they would say. These people are so repressed and are obviously projecting their fears of inadequacy onto others. They sounds unbelievably brainwashed, especially in the scene of the girls bedroom tours. I don't care what they may know .. Jesus is just all right, oh yeah .. Jesus is just all right .. No matter what race, gender, religion, or "interest" Jesus loves them and that will never change. Theroux did keep himself together very well compared to, like, whoever poned that kid in the head with a drink. Ugh, am i the only one, who has the burning desire to show them what Gods wrath really is ? I meant to say. It's in the bible. So they feel they are equal to god, because they feel they have the right to judge others. I found this doc funnier than hell no pun intended:D Though I fear you and your congregation have mocked God’s own commands so blatantly for so long and without regard for his word you are all past redemption, as you point out so often, it is my duty to remind you of your duty to your Lord God. I leave you with a quote you use on your own website, Fear God and keep His commandments. I cannot imagine anyone doing that to me at my parents or any of my friend's funeral. why why why let so many people suffer everyday? "just look at any scientist who still believes in a god-thing." Nothing they did was out of love for the lost and the desire to see people saved from Hell. Revelation 19:11 That is an important distiction. in an important present What I don't quite understand is how Sweden is a nation of fags....they never define it. "If you go back to the very basics of science and human DNA, (without a test tube, or injection), can lesbians and gays create life? I use to live in Topeka and know how bad they are there and it makes me sick that they involve children who are innocent to begin with and do not understand that what they are experiencing with their parents and family is pure hatred that they seem to be "saving" everyone from. Many Christians explain that God is ultimately love and merciful but I do not think believe people this church is working for God. When she tried to explain it to them it really didn't seem like she really wanted to get the point across or that she didn't really know how to get the point across. im surprised know one has jumped outta their car yet and beat the hell outta that shirley hater . Not seen in the film proper, but as an appendum on the BBC site, Theroux shares a story of how during a picketing of a milittary man's funeral, the members of this group, told the daughter of the man that just had died, that her father is now in hell. I watched this Documentary. Lord I pray for this family, and I pray you send down your Holy Spirit and you cleanse this family of the hurtful and painful messages they preach. I guess we'll never know. You can tell that at least the girl at the end has doubts. ""Fags" are old enough to know what is good for them and what isn't good for them." I'm surprised and appalled she can keep her children. A believer in Christ does not have the spirit of fear nor are they worried about were they are going when they leave the earth! Saying all racists and homophobes are the same and should be wiped off the earth simply for having THOSE opinions on THOSE subjects you find offensive, while turning a blind eye to the rest of the good in them is no more hate speech than when Phelps does the same to soldiers or gays. Maybe next time go to the hospital, and get em before they die". for Fred phelps to say they are the only ones teaching the truth and going to make it to the kingdom of God is way off base, he is cussing in church, rejoicing over deaths and horrible things I don't think this is right that is sick and the devil delights in tragedy and death. Our freedoms exist not to allow this aggressive nonsense, but to protect our private lives from being subjected to it. I realize that the command by your Lord God for this wicked transgression against His will is a true and real test of your commitment to the faith you adhere to and, in fact, encourage all of us to adhere and so requires a strength, true belief and courage you seem to lack. The religious christian brainwashing has been pushed to a frightening level. how much more things that pertain to this life?. I also feel extremely bad for the children being raised with those views. Nor Jesus' words of Love thy enemies. He ran for governor, but something happened. You are wasting your and our time! Without the love, I would highly doubt there has been any true cleasening from the other sins in a person's life. It's sad. They are taught as early as they can, and are stuffed with religious rhetoric and eventually begin to regurgitate everything they were taught. The bible has been proven to be written an d re-written throughout time to suit political agenda of 1000-2000 years ago. You are right in thinking that i am not as knowledgeable as you when it comes to known science, i am far from that actually. They're a brainwashing, hate-mongering, contemptuous cult, and free speech shouldn't protect people that walk all over it. He did a terrible job. They should be thanking them. Implying that Phelps may be gay is a form of flattery he does not deserve. Everything has a creator or it stems from something else that was created from something else its a never ending cycle that we will never figure out no matter how many scientist or priest sit down and try to figure it out we will be forever unknowing, rly rly sorry for these people , wasted lives :( Also, there's no such thing as a "true" American. Don't forget: Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law" (John7:19). But, He certainly knows the results of sin, and certain actions. If you believe that "God", "designed", the universe as for opposites to attract, then you obviously don't believe in gravity. as beneath us, less valuable in God's eyes. (Galatians 5:22-23). (This led to Saul’s desire to kill David. 2 powerful, telling moments that stood out in my mind: -The little kid who got hit with a drink thrown by a passerby in a car who was upset at the protesters. Sum over histories method tells us to calculate the end point, Now I ask you, Julia, what kind of Father-Son team is that? And even though it may sound shallow and judgemental of me, the fact that we have over 6 billion people on this planet kinda proves that straight is the "norm".". But what I tell you doesn't come from a God or my own ideals. if i am apparently going to hell then i am ok with that, as long as i am nowhere near those sick twisted poor excuse for human beings!!!!!!!! If these are the types of people that are going to be in heaven, then I think I would rather be in hell. Something I don't quite get, why wouldn't they actually want to bring others to their god or into their church, they go outta their way to cause people to not want to be a part of it. I find that offensive and take umbrage to that fact. The journalist diddn't ask any serious question about how and why it all started, didn't ask 4 example what they think of people who is married but hates each other (for example) Cindy: I agree the WBC is abusing God's name in a hateful way. He is looking to change their minds with his less than piercing questions and proceeds to play ping pong with their beliefs 'well you're thinking is weird', 'No your thinking is weird', its pointless. And the rest of us are calling our game, and your name. I've got it now. Not everyone thinks her comments are "stupid" thank you very much. He’s being very underestimated in this blog. true, we cant tell people how to feel, but we could try to change ideas. At the heart of the documentary is the Westboro Baptist Church (WBC), headed by Fred Phelps and based in Topeka, Kansas. And apparently at 19:46, this guy does not realize Christ purpose of coming to the earth. i dont think it is an attack or bigotry to state someone is delusional. Love is the answer, God is Love. I like em. It's really nice to hear people express their own deeply held views regardless of the opinion of society. 2. I also think Shirley is addicted to confrontation, the "Reverend" is a latent homosexual, and the other adults are just too lazy to think for themselves and need to follow to feel they belong. Now the silly stuff has been said, reality? And yes, it's Judgment day, call it 2012, call it the Age of Aquarius, call it Homecoming Chickens, call it Global Gag, it's on the way. (As alot do). They preach that "God Hates" everyone but LOVES the members of this church. God also did say this though:"Treat others just as you would want to be treated." You are a kind benevolent God and Lord I pray with my heart that you will save your lost sheep, for this family are most lost by believing they are found. You, sir, are obtuse. what if i believe that i have to sacrifice a child every week to my god, because its my religion... is the law gonna let it slide??? If God designed the universe, as you say, then that means God designed humans as well. Maybe, it's the romantic side of me. It interests me, that most vehement single-idea opinions, seem to come from those people who identify themselves as "believers" of one or another faith. And we fear Him because He has the power to judge us and will. The programme follows as Theroux revisits the family at the core of the Westboro Baptist Church and observes how its members have changed since … They are so far gone in their depravity that they will never be able to find their way back; they are just utterly, completely damned in their 'salvation'. In fact I have SEVERAL gay friends and I love them all as the unique human beings that they are. It's interesting how they target the recently bereaved and emotionally vulnerable, in a most gross and abhorrent manner. There are sins in everyone and they are too ignorant to understand. So who do these people think they are, according to god we are to love our neighbor as ourselves. But that isn't going to happen, and for me the whole idea of religion seems based on people wondering what happens when we die, and it seems alot of people are scared so much by this that they believe in heaven. Lord, You love all people. The grandmother? I am of Christian faith and the way I've been taught was to NOT PASS JUDGEMENT ON TO OTHERS because we OURSELVES are NOT PERFECT thats GOD's job, the Bible also states that GOD LOVES EVERYONE, in the BIBLE it does NOT condone hateful attitude AT ALL. Their family is the only thing they’ve got, because from the time they are six years old their family ostracises them from the rest of society. Now, I have tremendous sympathy for the children who are being brainwashed. And then the Emperor "Constantine The Great" decide to tone down the atrocities and cherry picked 4 gospels that preached love instead of hate, Re: your Jesus and the "New Testament" and then all you are doing is cherry picking scriptures to suite your fancy! lol open your eyes! This disgusted me. God? The Phelps', just as those aforementioned Muslim children are too lost to be helped, and it's terribly sad, but by this point, it ultimately comes down to "Who get's who first.". He brought love and hope to the unloved and hopeless; I am no longer of the faith but even I know these guys are insane! Do you believe that members of the KKK protested AGAINST them in one of the latest pickets? I am unconcerned, utterly, by comments of those who claim that my cadaver will be but the remains of a living 'soul' destined to suffer an eternity of unspeakable suffering at the hand of an infinitely loving, infinitely merciful, omnipotent whatever. It is quite astounding how deeply fixed these people's mindset has become. dear god, and jesus of corse, could you please protect me from your followers? Let me tell you these those people are what you call ignorant close minded people who only go about on blind fate and cannot justify there means son they resort to screaming, and doing all in there power to shut you up so they can stop your so call blassfemi or whatever so people and the "weaker" members of the church do get any ideas about leaving. These people spread lies by saying "GOD HATES" because God loves all mankind. They never mentioned love between two people at all. But theyre not publicised as much as the WBC are because JWs dont go about saying nasty s*it like WBC. we should ignore them then they fail x. dont just shout at them out the car window, run the fcukers over !! Phelps fought for and won civil liberties for several African Americans. 2 : a system of religious beliefs and ritual; also : its body of adherents And PUNISHMENT is a word with more letters than HATRED. And why was he never married? Well, they better do that "incognito" or they will get their @ss sued off, most of the (WCB) are lawyers! I bet it was tough hanging out with these smug ass holes. As I watched the documentary from this link, I became overly saddened by this family and the situation. 56: son of man? The thing that saddens me the most is that they are a beautiful family, in terms of how they really are internally, deep somewhere in the hearts that is in them. Good source for information though, rather hard to watch.. Yes, sin will be judged in God's timing, but we are called to love and to save those who are parishing, not to wish for their destruction and/or death. He ended up pepper-spraying those who were there legitimately for the funeral of a slain soldier and a police officer and the Phelps family. I'm sure there is lots of people who share their views. I wish their Jesus would bring the rapture and take these people home. They may have a strange way of showing this and a strange way of preaching about God that you or I are certainly not use to, but the fact of the matter is that they do in fact believe in Him. Also you could tell that the girls is stress out in the video and is mearly a poppet of her mother and grandfather. Why should your views legitimize me? NO CHRISTIAN smiles and laughs at someone bound for Hell. At present, BUT only adults. The part that made me laugh the most was when the other documentary man that converted said he used to be a genius. Bad things could happen to them if they actually went to a part of the country that wasn't in the mid-west. You ask: "I would like to read what you make of the miracle that you are, that we all are.". Again God’s command is very clear on this point as set forth in Leviticus 21:17-21 “Speak unto Aaron, saying, Whosoever he be of thy seed in their generations that hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God.”. If he were I would hope he would have done a better job. I guess that her hated comes from the sexual abuse she experienced at the hand of he father, and the alienation she felt from others who were enjoying their sexuality. I completely disagree with what the church preaches and the way they go about doing it, but I can't hate them. Challenge Jesus and you'll see how faithful He is. Think about it.. God can and does anything.. If these people showed up at a funeral for one of my friends or family members, there would be very little ANYONE could do to stop me from (____________)...use your imagination to fill in the blank..! If they were, there would be no hostility dealt in their direction. Its very sad. When the drink was thrown at that little boy i felt bad for him, but i also hoped that learned a very important lesson which is, don't put children into your religious cr*p. And i found it sad that another little boy whose talking about God hates this nation, of f*gs. pleas dont hate these people, their ideas on life are as F@#$ up as mine. people saying we already answered questions to him that in the doc. These people seem like real people. It is so interesting that these people preach a message of hate, and present it as a message of God. I guess the point I was trying to get across was that all bigotry is wrong, but these people don't know anything different, and those who do are shunned and chastised for the rest of their life by the church. Again I am speechless, well not quite, why would your god only belove Israel, I thought he, she, or it loved everyone? If they did then they would have the theory of everything. Every evil thing will eventually be dealt with in proper timing. And a loving God will let the laws of nature do the disciplining for him and he will also control the consequences! Their message only matters if you subscribe to their thinking. That much is clear! Hell was concocted to keep people like you in a mind prison your entire life. More people have died because of God than all the other wars put together. These people are acting like we like in the early 1900's when slavery was okay, except instead of judgement by skin color they are judging by gender. This is....no THESE people are INSANE!!!!!!! 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